DevOps Mythbusters

Posted on Monday, Feb 10, 2014
On this episode of Arrested DevOps Matt and Trevor are  joined by some of the finest minds in DevOps podcastery - Damon Edwards of DevOps Cafe and Sascha Bates of The Ship Show. The panel addresses some common beliefs on DevOps, and whether these beliefs are true…or just MYTHS.

Show Notes


The intro You’re either DevOps or you’re not

The Company Management Beliefs DevOps only works for startups or web companies. DevOps doesn’t scale. You can’t do DevOps without being Agile

Business Semantics Shops practicing DevOps should have a DevOps team. We can’t do DevOps because we need separation of duties.

The Team Operations Assumptions DevOps means “developers do operations work” A DevOps is a sysadmin that uses config mgmt. DevOps is about hiring sysadmins who code.

Developer Expectations DevOps means developers get admin access in production Developers cannot be trusted.

The Tools DevOps only works with Open Source tools and operating systems (i.e., I can’t do DevOps in a Microsoft shop) The tools promote the DevOps cultural change.

The wrap up -  DevOps doesn’t work.

Reference Links







Damon Edwards

Damon Edwards

Co-host of DevOps Cafe. The Pat Hughes to John’s Ron Santo.

Sascha Bates

Sascha Bates

Configuration management genius. Crewmember at The Ship Show. Opinions, she can haz.


Trevor Hess

Trevor Hess

Trevor Hess is a Partner Solution Architect focusing on Microsoft at Chef Software, working with Microsoft to ensure that Chef is delighting customers and prospects on Windows and the many parts inside Azure!

Coming from a background in .NET Software Development and consulting, he has worked with several large multinational organizations to help kick start their journey to the cloud and the world of DevOps practices and principals. He is excited to engage in new experiences, and learning opportunities.

Trevor enjoys having hearty discussions about DevOps as well organizational change and transformation.

Matty Stratton

Matty Stratton

Matty Stratton is a HumanOps Advocate at PagerDuty, where he helps dev and ops teams advance the practice of their craft and become more operationally mature. He collaborates with PagerDuty customers and industry thought leaders in the broader DevOps community, and back when he drove, his license plate actually said “DevOps”.

Matty has over 20 years experience in IT operations, ranging from large financial institutions such as JPMorganChase and internet firms, including He is a sought-after speaker internationally, presenting at Agile, DevOps, and ITSM focused events, including ChefConf, DevOpsDays, Interop, PINK, and others worldwide. Matty is the founder and co-host of the popular Arrested DevOps podcast, as well as a global organizer of the DevOpsDays set of conferences.

He lives in San Francisco and has three awesome kids - Henry, Joey, and Sophia, who he loves just a little bit more than he loves Doctor Who. He is currently on a mission to discover the best pho in the world.