Unreliable Things Can Be the Most Valuable Things

Posted on Friday, Mar 29, 2019
How do you make change in a complex system that is always failing, but must never break?

Show Notes


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Mark Hibberd

Mark Hibberd

Mark is the Head Technologist at Kinesis in Sydney, where they help cities and developers (like, property developers) help the climate, using data. He believes in guiding complex systems through change.


Jessica Kerr

Jessica Kerr

Jessitron is a symmathecist in the medium of code. She works at Honeycomb in developer relations. She writes about software and system on her blog at Jessitron.com. She teaches workshops on Systems Thinking, and makes courses on Graceful.dev. She is into resilience engineering, domain-driven design, and of course DevOps – all the systems-thinky things. She lives in St. Louis, MO, where she raises two children and their cats. Find her also on >Code, and at conferences around the world.